In the past they wanted to abolish Indian rights, but since 30 to 40 years ago, the universities and schools are taking the cases seriously – Delgamuukw, etc. – we have maybe ten or 12 cases. Our title cannot be extinguished now. All governments must respect that. We maintain that these decisions are right. That is why it took time in the past for the band to negotiate with the governments. And when we look at the government of Quebec or Canada I think they want to stick together – they want us to give them their land and respect their laws. That’s what they are waiting for. That was happening in the beginning when Frenchmen or English explorers, with the church – they wanted to extinguish our religion and persuade us to be like white men. You know the Innu Nation has nine communities. Before it was only one. After the governments were able to separate the group to create three groups. The government tried to get agreement by this. The east are undecided like Ashuanipi and the west are going ahead. They have a lot of steps to go. The two others are just starting negotiations. I know what they did with the tribal councils. They want to accelerate the processes to have the treaty. But the groups are not at the same stage – they have to wait until the others finish. They have to wait a long time. They say we don’t respect what we signed with them. It is not in the treaty. They play with you. They have cards on the table. They don’t tell you the truth. They are not in good faith. They just want our signatures and to give us the money and they own the land. Because what’s in the land is going to make them money – with our land. It’s not the money from the land. It’s government money. They are not going to share. Like I said, I once met a Cree leader in Quebec City. I took a walk with that man and I told him ‘Look what the government did to your land. We didn’t sign. They made a map. They gave you money. What they did was take the land, the river – they gave you small change.’ It’s like a wheel of fortune. You receive small change. Just a few dollars.